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            Introducing episode 81, Letting Go of the Perfect Holiday Season   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏   ͏
        
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We carefully plan all our episodes, and our December podcast is the one that we are most thoughtful about, not least because we have listeners, guests and readers across the world. This year we’ve brought in the theme of past, present and future and shared some thoughts from our Community. This time of the year often asks us to compare past, present, and imagined futures and those comparisons can be unforgiving - we’ve done our best to ease the load.</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">It’s a gentle chat with us three on reflections, hopes and some Christmas Grinch - you’ll have to listen to who is the most Grinchy! What surprised us was the ideas that we riffed on in the episode, ones that came to mind simply through talking out how hard this season can be. </p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">We steer clear of politics and conflict but it’s fair to say that everyone has been affected in some way by global events these past 12 months.  We hope that the Full Stop has been a source of togetherness this year. Each November, we work with Daniel, our accountant, who oversees our work, to compile our annual report so we can maintain our CIC status. We have to show growth, and we’re pleased to report that our visibility peaked and we’ve seen more sharing of our work by allies of childless people, which is enormously rewarding, as that can change narratives that often create silos. You can hear us talk about our highlights on Episode 81 (81 … eek!).</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">We’ve maintained a steady ship and are pleased to tell you we’re booking up for 2026 and have something new and exciting to share in our next newsletter. In a tumultuous world, we trust that this brings you comfort.</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">Also bringing comfort is our holiday chat. Each month, we host informal Zoom chats across time zones for our members. There’s space to talk, to listen, or simply to be present, without explanation or expectation, in a place with people who get it. 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We never want cost to prevent connection. Anyone who feels they would benefit from our community is warmly invited to contact the directors, in confidence, to request free membership.</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">If this sounds like something that might support you (or someone you know), please know you are welcome. Connection matters, especially at this time of year. </p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">Let us know what’s on your mind. We love to hear from you. <a href="https://bio.site/thefullstop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" style="color:#ba321b !important;">Contact us via social media</a>&nbsp;or drop either one of us an email (Michael@, Sarah@ or Berenice@ thefullstoppod.com).&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">We wish you a nourishing, kind and gentle Christmas, Yule, Solstice, Hanukkah and holiday season. </p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;margin-bottom:0;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">With love,<br>Berenice, Sarah and Michael</p>
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It’s why I wanted to speak about it through a different lens, so rather than one of not coping, one that brings reflection and perspective.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">The Christmases of my childhood are bittersweet. They were filled with family, fun, noise, music and more decorations than you could shake a stick at. Our front room was a riot of colour, tackiness and mis-matched decorations on the tree. A real tree so laden with decorations it needed to be secured to the wall. There were presents, family visits and noise. It was riotous, joyous…and also impossible to replicate.</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">There were family members that are no longer with us but are still very much missed. There were traditions that I cannot continue without the generation I was meant to pass them onto, and there was music I can no longer listen to without the old pang of memories and grief.</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">And so, when I hit my first Christmas after my childlessness, I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t pretend to be OK with Christmas, the lack of children or that my Christmases would never bear any resemblance to what I had as a child. The grief of being robbed of my Christmases fuelled my rejection of it for years.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">A bowl of chocolate was as far as I could go. If I couldn’t have the Christmas I dreamed of, I would have none. It was dead to me. 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I know there’ll be sadness, but the space I need for my Christmas grief has shrunk, much like my childless grief.&nbsp;</p><p class="" style="color:inherit;font-size:1em;line-height:1.618em;margin:0 0 1.25em 0;font-weight:normal;font-family:'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.01em;">I have joy, but it’s for different aspects of the festivities – the space to walk in the Winter weather, time to see people in my life that I love (friends and family), the joy of not feeling the need to conform to enforced fun. There’s a special type of thrill for me in not following the rules and celebrating how I need to. 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